Coronavirus

[Stagger]

Has it crossed your mind Mike that some of the vulnerable would rather take their chances with Covid than live in a society that insists on locking people.

My sentiments exactly

[Mike T]

Has it crossed your mind Mike that some of the vulnerable would rather take their chances with Covid than live in a society that insists on locking people down?

But they are not just taking their own chances, they are taking other people's chances as well - if they could not infect anybody else during the course of their illness, then I would of course have no objection to letting them take risks.

[JohnK]

Has it crossed your mind Mike that some of the vulnerable would rather take their chances with Covid than live in a society that insists on locking people down?

Amen to that there is one right here

[Dave_Mole]

But they are not just taking their own chances, they are taking other people's chances as well - if they could not infect anybody else during the course of their illness, then I would of course have no objection to letting them take risks.

seconded

[Witton Park]

But they are not just taking their own chances, they are taking other people's chances as well - if they could not infect anybody else during the course of their illness, then I would of course have no objection to letting them take risks.

If you are one at risk, just stay home. Quite simple.

[Dave_Mole]

If you are one at risk, just stay home. Quite simple.

which shows a complete lack of understanding of the situation.
Simple is as simple does.

[JohnK]

But they are not just taking their own chances, they are taking other people's chances as well - if they could not infect anybody else during the course of their illness, then I would of course have no objection to letting them take risks.

seconded

If you are one at risk, just stay home. Quite simple.

Are you guys suggesting that all vulnerable people are selfish and self centered or may be thick or something

and derserve to be placed in into a situation where mental illness is a more likely outcome

[Flem]

If you are one at risk, just stay home. Quite simple.

To borrow from Ben Goldacre again, I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that. What would your simple solution be for people who live in a care home of some sort, or who live in their own home but who need regular visits from a carer or nurse? How can they protect themselves from the virus being brought into their homes?

It seems to me that anyone who thinks there is a 'simple' solution to this crisis really hasn't understood the problems we're facing.

[Dave_Mole]

Are you guys suggesting that all vulnerable people are selfish and self centered or may be thick or something

and derserve to be placed in into a situation where mental illness is a more likely outcome

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[anthonykay]

Are you guys suggesting that all vulnerable people are selfish and self centered or may be thick or something

and derserve to be placed in into a situation where mental illness is a more likely outcome

While I can see the logic in what Mike T is saying, I do worry that the cure may be worse than the disease [or, to be pedantic, the prevention measure may be worse than the problem being prevented]. Thinking back to when I was a first-year student, if I had been locked in my hall of residence for 14 days, they would probably have been scraping the remains of my body off the pavement below my room window before the fortnight was up. I won't be surprised if there is some serious disorder in some universities within the next week or two.