ripoff for new boiler

[IanDarkpeak]

Coal fire. Its the way forward.

Not as "Green" as a woodburner Trev

[Mike T]

Annual boiler service today - condenser - we discussed their reputation for complexity/unreliability - engineer claimed 95% of the boiler breakdowns he was called to were either installation errors - poorly installed condenser outlet/wiring problems - or flat thermostat batteries! Ours has been fine the last year, thankfully.

[Masham Man]

Everything is overpriced, but this seems just too much...

We live in a 3bed det house, boiler is running well but old and not efficient, British Gas came to inspect the house and give us FREE advice on how to save energy.
They advised to get a new energy efficient boiler, total cost about £4800. So we can SAVE about £150 a year.

Thieves.:angry:

That is way over the top. I've had a new boiler fitted recently and I paid 800 quid. It Is a condensing boiler and made by vallant, well pleased. Ok my son is a plumber so gave him 50 quid to fit it!!!!!!!!!!! you can find this boiler on-line for roughly the same price I payed

[plodding bear]

We just had a new boiler fitted, paid a grand in total, for boiler and installation. I'm in Silsden, if it helps. I'm sure our local guy would like your business!

[Mike T]

How much does installation normally cost? We paid - in 2008 - for an Eco tech pro/installation - £2,500 plus VAT - it would seem we were completely ripped off!

[Rob Furness]

If I were buying an Ecotec pro I would expect to pay around £700 for the boiler depending on which model and a bit extra for the flue (Ecotec Plus are a bit more still). I get them a bit cheaper because of where I work and obviously it depends on the output and the amount of flue required, also whether you need a built in timer/wireless thermostat etc. Installation would depend on the amount of work required and would vary hugely. I don't do any private work so I'm no good at pricing up, however, a standard boiler swap for another combi would probably take me up to half a day from start to finish so you can make your own mind up from that. £2500 sounds steep Mike, but without knowing the exact situation it wouldn't be that easy to say.

[Llani Boy]

Just been made aware of the latest boiler rip-off. I am shortly going to have a new oil boiler fitted and have been told I will have to pay an extra £120 Clean Heat Market Mechanism charge.

What is this I asked and apparently it is because the boiler manufactures are not meeting their targets for the sale of air source heat pumps they have been fined and are passing it on to buyers of oil boilers like me who have no choice in the matter. Outrageous!

This came in 2 days ago on 1st Jan 2024. It will apply to those of you lucky enough to have gas too.

I have spoken to three installers, and the guy from Worcester Bosch who has been servicing our aged oil boiler, and none of them would touch or recommend installation of air source heat pumps unless it was for a new build that was fully insulated. Even then they say that unless combined with solar panels the electricity required to run them is prohibitive.

One of the installers is fitting an oil boiler to a customer who is removing recently fitted air source heat pumps as they are not up to the job.

The sooner we stop listening to the shite spouted by the likes of Greta Thunberg and Damian Hall, the better!

[Travs]

I work in the industry.

You can't simply retro-fit air-source into an existing installation. They operate at lower temperatures, and therefore you would need to upgrade all your radiators to get the same heat output.

They are best suited to new builds, and then they are more suited to underfloor heating, which generally works on lower temperatures than traditional radiators.

I am often tendering for projects which are specified with air source. However it is usually the first thing to be scrapped when the client realises how prohibitive the initial costs can be. Although gas is really dying out from large-scale projects, and often electric panel radiators are used instead.

[Witton Park]

Although gas is really dying out from large-scale projects, and often electric panel radiators are used instead.

Because of market rigging by the Government. No other reason.

Llani's current problem is only the latest and a relatively small financial transfer from "desirable and reliable" energy to "undesirable and unreliable" energy.

So when you hear that Net Zero scepticism is creeping in to the current Tory Government, do not believe it. It isn't.

We have one destination and two routes. Tory and Labour.

[Travs]

Well, gas is generally not being specified as buildings are built for a minimum 50 year lifespan.

There is a general policy to move away from gas (where possible), i assume as reserves of gas aren't infinite.