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Sounds good! Your PF really has gone up a lot. Hopefully it'll keep going onwards and upwards!
ha ha I knew you wouldn't be able to leave it 2 weeks :rolleyes:
I know, Im back down below 500 again now, could it be last night run maybe did a bit of damage.
3 days walking in Wasdale from thursday onwards. No running promise, plenty of climb.
See you for a pint GeoffB
Hey Jamie,
I saw this and thought of you.
Mud
Perhaps one of these would be more appropriatte
http://www.freaksprogress.com/wp-con...ightJacket.jpg
Im a little reluctant to post this but....
Since I started on the Montelukast tablets on Friday fair enough my asthma has been better but my head has been completely up my arse.
Admittedly, Im not the brightest bulb in the box at the best of times, but it feels like I have been prescribed the over the counter equivilant ecstasy.
I have been waking up in the middle of the night covered in sweat. I have been having weird dreams but last night was a proper kick ass nightmare. That scared the shit out of me and I remember it clear as a bell. I also felt like I could hear all the blood pumping around my body. It took me about three hours to get back to sleep.
I have been unable to concentrate, Example I had a meeting in Birmingham on monday and ended up jumping on the non stop train to london. Hence I had to get back from London Euston to Warrington and explain to my bosses why I could not make a training course I was supposed to be giving. Luckily its that much of a far out thing to happen that they saw the funny side of it
Granted I was a bit hungover but I just have not been thinking straight since starting to take them.
Im gonna put them in the bottom drawer and keep working the inhalers I was improving on those things.
Good knows what the street value is of these things.
Deeko, has your friend who takes them had any similar experiences.
Jamie
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From http://www.drugs.com/cdi/montelukast.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by NotOnUrHelly
And you get it for free on the NHS!Quote:
Montelukast may cause drowsiness or dizziness. These effects may be worse if you take it with alcohol
After last nights dreams and not sleeping I did actually google it, but I try not to believe everytihng I read on the internet.
I'll knock it on the head and see what happens.
Uhm
Taken from the BNF which is the Drugs Bible essentially
Possible Side effects of montelukast
Side-effects
abdominal pain, thirst; hyperkinesia (in young children), headache; very rarely dry mouth, diarrhoea, dyspepsia, nausea, vomiting, hepatic disorders, palpitation, oedema, increased bleeding, Churg-Strauss syndrome (see notes above), asthenia, dizziness, hallucinations, paraesthesia, hypoaesthesia, sleep disturbances, abnormal dreams, agitation, aggression, seizures, arthralgia, myalgia, pruritus, and rash
Hi Jamie,
I just asked him - he said:
"Yeah I stopped taking them though - I took them at night and felt pretty groggy in the mornings I took a break as I didn't want to be dependent on them"
"They do work though - big style when my asthma was at its worst if I forgot to take one guranteed darth vader awakeningings in the middle of the night"
So - upsides and downsides! If they're doing weird stuff you'd be better off asking for a 5 day course of prednisolone. Makes you a bit hyper but that's all I've had with it. Steroids are a short term thing though (unless you want some really BAD side-effects).
Cheers,
Derek.
I stopped taking those horrid little mind altering toffees that the nurse gave me. The dodgy not myself feeling has gone away and the nightmares have stopped. Just sweet dreams now.
Going off the side effects Detritrious has listed I would "rather not", "just say no" and all that. I'll stick to the mushrooms, thanks totally organic and a natural high :).
I have just got back from 2 days walking in the lakes and although it was very slow paced due to my mates cracking out the stove and having a brew every half hour. Never needed my reliever, and we did some fairly steep climbs. So thats one plus,
I have also just done a flat forty five minutes and felt fine. My peak flow before I started was about 490, and when I had finished it was 450. Still quite low but. Hey its not the drops I have been experiencing, and I never felt in any danger.
Hopefully I have turned the corner now, Im hoping its not the effects of the Montelukast still in my system. Its been 5 days and I only took 4 days worth.
So Im hoping Im gonna be able to have a good two weeks training and then perhaps jog round the anniversary waltz somewhere near the back.
Cheers
Jamie
Hopefully this will be my last post on this thread and I can start paying a bit of attention to the races section of this forum and not just the health thread.
I have just managed a reasonanbly fast paced run and got through it unscathed. My PF before was 490 and my PF now is 440. Still quite low on the old PF's but I can work on those with the power breathe.
Without meaning to sound melodramatic here I'd just like to pass on a quick thanks to everyone who has posted advice on this thread. I really appreciate it, hopefully this thread will be useful for others in the future and if I meet any of you at races the pints are on me.
Cheers
Jamie
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Almost coming worth coming down south for! :)
Glad you're feeling better m8 - I told you you'd get there! Just keep on top of it and you'll be back to optimal quite soon.
Feel free to email/pm me if you're struggling ever again...
Cheers,
Derek.
Cheers Derek,
I just want to get those normal peak flows up really, thanks for your advice and stuff its helped a lot. I just dont think my asthma was very well controlled I never used the brown long term inhalers it was always blue and only when I needed it. So i'll probably feel better in a few months.
Let me know when your racing down south and w'ell have a pint.
Cheers
Jamie
Good news Jamie!!
Really pleased to hear you're feeling better Helly. Mine has levelled out and, apart from the tonsillitis last week, I've only needed the blue reliver just before running or cycling and one blast on the brown each night before bed (down from four a day). I'm also pumping the powerbreather in the hope that is will help. Mark.Quote:
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Thanks for that Mark,
I'm currently on a purple preventer, Im gonna try and get that back down to a brown. Im out for a run tonight on the fells. So looking forward to it.
Just a question of getting my fitness back up now, the three peaks is out of the question this year. (cant do it on two weeks training), but thats good because there is no pressure on me now.
I can build up to a race later in the year, and enjoy a few of the shorter evening races. Im just happy to be running again. Im gonna keep blasting the power breathe as you say. See if that does any good in a month or so. Have you had pretty good result form this ha sit improved your peak flow.
Cheers
Jamie
I found the power breather beneficial and it has helped me reduce the medication and generally made my lungs feel stronger. Could be psychological I suppose but as long as I feel better I don't care!!!Quote:
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well done noton! just keep bashing away. you will win!
Thanks Wheeze,
Cant get my peak flows over 500 yet, but Im back running so thats the main thing for now.
Cheers for all your help
Keep going with the purple one even if you think your asthma is well sorted. If it works use it is all I can say. Chances are if you went back to the brown inhaler you'd probably find that you'll end up back where you started.
Uncontrolled asthma is one of the biggest causes of asthma developing into COPD and you don't be wanting that one (COPD = Chonic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease aka Chonic Lung Disease aka buggered
Cheers for that Detritious point noted. ;)
How are all the huffers? I'm off the drugs all together now and feeling great. Running and biking no probs but still keep the little blue bugger in my pocket! Hope you are all improved.
I certainly owe a lot to you people as it was after reading this thread I realized that I needed a change from the so called asthma treatment, and therefore corrected the problems that were prevalent before, and by the grace of god am more or less okay health wise.
Really James, tell us more pal.
I felt like such a rambling arsehole when I was posting on that thread. I thought people would think I was so self occupied and a bit of a hypocondriac.
Im really glad you have found it of benefit. I was going through a really bad time with it. I hate not running and all the posts and advice really did help.
Let us know what happened with you
Jamie
http://www.suunto.com/suunto/Worlds/...829615X2087165
Interesting for all us puffers.
No inhaler for weeks now and going well on bike and feet. Long may it continue.
Hello there, "NotOnUrHelly" well basically after reading this thread I made up my mind to either get rid of this asthma problem completely or to make arrangements so that it does not become a hurdle for me when I prepare to run. I discarded the use of all medicines and took on the yoga classes. I was amazed to see the benefit I got within a couple of weeks. I wont say my asthma has been completely cured but it does not become a major problem now when I am running. Isnt this wonderful?
Hi James02 - why were you taking Fosomax? Do you use a powerbreather and what particular yoga poss have helped? Questions questions!!
The article on Simon Booth in the Summer 2007 fellrunner is very inspiring for us puffers, blowers and heavers. Seems that Simon has been plagued with asthma since he was five.
It crops up a number of times in the article, he mentions the reasons he never seems to do well at the three shires is because its towards the end of the season and the pollen is high which usually affects his asthma. I can particularly relate to this as it was half way up Wetherlam that I conked out last year. I was the first back to the pub though:)
Im hoping to get round this race this year.
Jamie
I watched that film about Che Guevara recently and he was a huffer too.
Well, can't we tell the weather is changing:mad:Quote:
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After months of no inhalers and starting to feel pretty fit I had the mother of all attacks last night:eek:
Felt a bit chesty all day but the cold air at night kick started it off again :(
After manically searching for the inhaler - (to the point of full on panic attack!!) therefore enabling my lungs to start working again calm was retored!
Bloody great does this mean the annual chest infection is imminent and I can't go anywhere without the bloomin inhaler - grrrrr.
Still feel iffy this morning - maybe a run will help?:cool:
Don't know if this helps but i have to get Prednisolone (i think its called) occasionally from my GP when i have a bout that just won't go away - usually after being around cats though (must be all them Black Panthers running around these days) - but it really does the trick.
It definately is that time of year Emmi, it was this time last year I only madeit quarter of the way up Wetherlam.
Its always at the back of my mind, Im hoping the purple peril inhaler that I have been choffing on for 6 months will see me right. (seretide)
Have you been taking your preventer inhalers morning and night Emmi. This is something I did'nt do last year and I got caught out.
Its a bummer cos you had such a good run Saturday - hopefully nothing to serious
Jamie
thanks guys - i can't get to see my quack this week - I'm not ill enough obviously:( and go away sunday - so sun sea and warmness!!! I'll go and see her when i get back to talk about a preventative over the winter months.
I've only got the 1 inhaler Jamie and usually resort to it when I feel an attack coming on - I've been brill all summer - not even any hayfever this year which is nothing short of a miracle.
Swoop and I were saying this morning that there has been no gradual decline in the temperature it was just suddenly bloomin freezing!!!
ran today and felt ok but coughing up a lung on the drive home!!:eek:
Will keep you posted!
Might be worth getting a flu jab as well
You've got me twitchy now
sorry Hun:o You'll be fine - *crosses everything*:oQuote:
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I ran fine last night, breathing was okay. Although I was feeling the cold.
Hope I dont have a bad winter again. It will wreck all my plans for next year. :mad:
Yep - about a week ago I was back on the brown preventative one and also have a couple of blasts on the blue before a run or bike ride. So far so good but I know I need to start back on them when I get woken up at night sounding like Mr. Vader! Got a flu jab booked as well and am starting a pilates class in a few weeks in the hope that it may help. Also moved the power breather to once a day rather than every 2 or 3. Let's just hope it doesn't bugger me for the Isle of Wight this weekend and Steepdown in October - that was the one I had to stop in last year after belting off uphill at the start. Not pretty! Right, I'm off out on the BMX. Break a leg.
Struggling a bit at the moment. I forgot to take the preventitive last night before bed and woke up wheezing. I just hate the idea of steroids and the like. Swimming tonight and will try without the inhaler and see how I go on. How are you all?
My asthma's been great since I started on Seretide. I don't like the idea of steroids either but it's the lesser evil I guess. I'm starting to notice the cold weather though - need to make sure I take my reliever a bit more religously!