Might be marginally quicker, but it looks horrendous!!Quote:
Originally Posted by mickofhalifax
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Might be marginally quicker, but it looks horrendous!!Quote:
Originally Posted by mickofhalifax
If it's the path we saw when running up there a few weeks ago then I would partly agree. It will definitely be faster but looks like it belongs in a city park. I quite liked the existing routeQuote:
Originally Posted by fozzy
Does anybody know if the path is complete and if so is it open to be used on a reccy?
Yes its complete :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Philg
To be honest whether the race follows the new track or goes the old way won't make a huge difference, maybe a minute or two - the new path avoids the sometimes boggy drop down to Sell Gill pot, which is what a 5 minute hop from Whitber Hill, and just meets the Pennine Way a bit further up. In my best grumbly old curmudgeon voice "if I had my way the 3 Peaks route wouldn't follow either of those tracks"
If you had your way I suspect the route would go through that boggy bit where I went in up to my neck and, if you weren't doing the Fellsman, you'd be there with your camera photographing the carnage!:rolleyes:;)
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Originally Posted by Stolly
Does anyone know when we find out if we've secured a place in this i.e. entry verification process?
SiEntries entry lists
Yes, I'm on that list thanks Derby, but I thought entry qualifications had to be verified first?Quote:
Originally Posted by Derby Tup
Could start an interesting debate but I've no idea if they are verified or not. If you've done the qualifiers then you should be in I'd have thought :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountain Goatess
Haha. As if they're going to check everyone's credentials out. I suspect its more for use as an arse covering question should a runner come to grief :)
I just assumed I was in and I'm not convinced that they'll check the qualifiers of 999 people which brings me back to another thread about race entry (I always put my race numbers as well as proof) but anyway, I agree with DT, if you are on the list, have the qualifying races and you've paid your money, seems to me that you'll be in!
The reason I was asking is because I had to pull out at Ribblehead in 2011 due to stomach bug and couldn't enter last year due to injury. So I come under the category as stated 'Runners who do not fulfill either of these requirements but who have endurance running experience should submit details on their entry'.
I guess you're right Stolly, they need to cover themselves but I thought the point of listing qualifications was so that they could check. Quote from 3 Peaks Race page 'The many hundreds of hours we spend verifying entries is critical to the safe running of the race'.
Blimey, I didn't know they do that (or at least said that they do it). I suspect that they do spot checks if truth be told. You'll be fine LouiseQuote:
Originally Posted by Mountain Goatess
Oh well, I shall await race number confirmation! Fingers crossed. It's just a little training day run for me anyway! :rolleyes: :w00t:
Yes, they do appear to check. A few people had said to me that they don't bother checking anymore. So, me being a bit pedantic emailed Bryan the RO to get the full SP and here is his response; I think it is ok to reprint it here, the info is relevant.
"Not sure where you got this misleading information from re /race qualifications , Any one cannot enter the 3Peaks Race, The requirements are clear to read.
Race Entries open on Line on Sat 2 Feb an i check progress regularly.
Entrants are contacted, if detailed races are not correct we expect them
to make every effort to enter and submit a result , other wise they in
breach of our Entry Rules and would loose there entry. It is in the interest of your safety and our good reputation you follow the
Race Entry rules."
They aren't going to check those entries that ran in the last couple of years, they don't need to they can check the results and I guess people race this year on year so the number of 'new' entries to check might not be as many as you think.
There you go.
Thanks FF! I entered on 2nd Feb and not been emailed so probably been 'checked' by now and in! :)
Good one Fairyfeet. I'm pleased that they do actually check.
I applied for a place in the Jura fell race a few years ago and didn't have the qualifiers so I wrote to the RO and explained my situation and experience and she gave me a place on the understanding that I do the qualifying races before Jura, needless to say, I got injured and had to pull out before race day:thunbdown:. Its still on my 'to do' list and I'm thinking about it for next year.
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Originally Posted by Fairyfeet
The first time I entered I had to blag my way in by basically emailing the organiser prior to entering and giving various examples of races I had done (none a cat A or B long) and he emailed me back to say I was ok to enter as long as put this info on the entry. I repaid his generosity by pulling out at Hill Inn :o
This time round, I haven't had any problems with qualifying as last years racing involved (amongst others) 2 x AL's and 2 x AM's. Funnily enough I feel in a much better position this time round and have already decided that if I can still walk I will be finishing it however long it takes me. If I can do Borrowdale I can do the Peaks.
See you all there on the day, please give jelly babies generously :)
I'm sure you can do it, you came past me easily at holme moss and I'm (possibly foolishly) not worried that I won't finish 3P.
Getting round under 4 hours though. That is playing on my mind.
Also, does anyone have any advice about what shoes to wear? I've walked it in roclite 295s but they felt a bit heavy. was thinking either inov8 190s or some adidas racing flats if it is very dry.
I know I can do it. Just having dropped out once it plays on my mind. Hate not finishing races. Sub 4 is my general target too, although I think I should be more like 3:45 if I get it right. Where did I go past you at Holme moss? I think I hit form early for that race, I felt pretty solid all the way round with the exception of the last 1/2 mile on the road where I felt grim (don't think I was alone either). But then at Borrowdale I bombed big style and struggled from green gable onwards, haven't been 100% since :)
Last year I ran in Speedcross, felt it gave a little bit of protection on hard trails etc but had enough grip when it got a bit muddy, but if was pretty dry then road shoes would be fine. Rob Jebb shows you can, winning the race a number of times in a pair of Nike racing flats.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnyb1
Personally I wouldn't wear 190's as I feel they would be a little too thin for such a distance and if its hard you'll end up with sore feet... but saying that Carl Bell came 2nd last year wearing 190's, so if you feel comfortable in them then you should be fine.
Just after laddow rocks, i had a shocker and couldn't get going after that climb. First AL on a roasting day and went out too hard with too little water.
I tend to wear 190s for everything as they are the only fell and trail shoes i have, but I'm not sure i want to do 23 mile of hard tracks and road in them. Might get something new for this and ultras.
As long as I get back in shape I'm really looking forward to it.
Ahh, didn't realise it was you mate. Yep I think you went off way too fast. In form you should be right as rain. See you there
Have I missed the entry dates for this!!? :confused:
Entries still openQuote:
Originally Posted by that_fjell_guy
Not according to the race site. Full.
http://www.threepeaksrace.org.uk/raceinfo2012.html
Cheers Derby Tup / Anonymouse. Just checked 809 places gone, 999 limit! Problem is, I'm at work with no SiEntry number and not sure I can remember where it is! Its going to have to wait for tomorrow morning when i get home!! Surely 190 people won't enter tonight!!? :confused:
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Originally Posted by anonymouse
sorry but your link is for 2012 !!! :o
2013 is still open:D
As merrySteve would say, you'll be reet enoughQuote:
Originally Posted by that_fjell_guy
Oops!Quote:
Originally Posted by who killed bambi
Looking forward to it.
Does anyone have Garmin stats they wouldn't mind sharing for mile splits for a 4.45ish finish please? :D
If you go to the three peaks website there are links to the results (on the sportident site). Here's the link for 2012 - http://results.sportident.co.uk/home...0-05a7e8049b02 If you find a finisher with a 4:45 time then click on the details link and you'll get the splits for the tops as well as Ribblehead and the Hill Inn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountain Goatess
Unless you know you pace yourself in the same way as another runner then mile splits might not be of much use.
It varies MG because some runners go quick early and then drop off and others start slower but maintain their pace.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountain Goatess
My first year 2008 I did 42 PYG, 1:46 Ribblehead for a 4:40 finish, then in 2009 I was 43 PYG, 1:47 RH and finished 4:45
I missed 2010 with a back problem and so I went in to 2011 lacking in confidence and started with a lower target.
I ran 47 PYG and 1:55 RH but finished with a 4:43.
I would consider that my best run even if not a PB as I finished with a little in hand. That's the way I hope to run this year after a bad race last year where I just made the Hill Inn cut-off and finished in over 5 hours.
So my advise would be to just steady up and down PYG, chug along to RH and aim to be something like 47 up PYG and 1:55 - 2:00 at RH and I think you will be on the money for a 4:45.
Haven't entered the race (doing Fellsman) but planning a steady run round the 3 peaks this weekend and anticipating melting snow/ice
Anyone know what the conditions are like atm?
On Monday the defining characteristic was a brutal wind on the tops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Murt
Here's my 4:35 from 2010:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountain Goatess
http://connect.garmin.com/player/31156595
Cheers WP I will keep your times in mind as that's exactly where I want to be. :thumbup:
I did 5.09 in 2008... 46 PYG and 2.00 Ribblehead....took me an age on the Whernside stretch which cost me with only about 3 mins to spare at Hill Inn where I stood around for 10 mins deciding whether or not to carry on! ha.
2011 I got exactly the same times but had to pack in at Ribblehead due to migraine symptoms. Confidence is low due to that but I really should get well under 5 hours this time hopefully. :)
QUOTE=Witton Park;534830]It varies MG because some runners go quick early and then drop off and others start slower but maintain their pace.
My first year 2008 I did 42 PYG, 1:46 Ribblehead for a 4:40 finish, then in 2009 I was 43 PYG, 1:47 RH and finished 4:45
I missed 2010 with a back problem and so I went in to 2011 lacking in confidence and started with a lower target.
I ran 47 PYG and 1:55 RH but finished with a 4:43.
I would consider that my best run even if not a PB as I finished with a little in hand. That's the way I hope to run this year after a bad race last year where I just made the Hill Inn cut-off and finished in over 5 hours.
So my advise would be to just steady up and down PYG, chug along to RH and aim to be something like 47 up PYG and 1:55 - 2:00 at RH and I think you will be on the money for a 4:45.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Bob, will have a look :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob