Omm 2009

[sbrt]

This article is worth a read http://www.outdoorwarehouse.co.uk/in...B0BADF33980A31



And this one
http://www.planetfear.com/articles/T...List_1037.html

Some ideas to work with.
Have fun!

[Stevie]

The Up and Running kit catalogue hat came with the entry paperwork seems V expensive. £150 for a 3 season sleeping bag? A 1kg gelert is only £45 on Amazon. Hmm...some serious research needed here!
What size rucsac can you manage with? 30 L or less?

Wheeze, if you are serious about getting the weight down, and stand any chance of running with your pack on, you do need to be thinking in terms of a sub 1kg tent and sleeping bag around 500g. Serious minimalists use solid fuel blocks and cook in a tin foil container / Titanium mug. At worst a sub 80g stove with small canister. Cook as little as possible - e.g. use Rego, Complan, nuts, hot-x buns to supplement dried food that needs boiling water. The PB fell suits sounds ideal, but if it is old and you need to use it make sure it will stand up to the abuse. Wickes silver backed bubble-wrap insulation is good for sleeping on. Don't take spare socks, you don't want to carry the heavy wet ones back. Just a few ideas.

[molehill]

Sleeping bag I have one of these from Alpkit http://www.alpkit.com/shop/cart.php?...ategory_id=253

which I use for any camping nights out, does me fine and probably as good as you'll get for the price - obviously there's better if you want to pay more .

Looks like we've just made it onto the 'Reserve List' 12th reserve on C class .

Where is the overnight stop then, beside the river. I might go and bury a bottle of Wiskey nearby .

I use drinking bladder to carry my wine in when camping, works great and you can put the tube back on in the tent, hang it from the roof and lie in your sleeping bag gently sucking at the bladder of red from the mouthpiece, whilst contemplating how great life can be.

Regards kit generally, all depends how serious (and good) one is, or are you just going to have a bloody good time and company. Latter for us.

[Splatcher]

Sleeping bag I have one of these from Alpkit http://www.alpkit.com/shop/cart.php?...ategory_id=253
Where is the overnight stop then, beside the river. I might go and bury a bottle of Wiskey nearby .

Well it's not too heavy to carry in enough to sedate you sufficiently (to sedate me anyway...). Plastic bottles, & make it cask strength for lighter weight. Just don't make the mistake my mate made in the Saunders last year, & re-use a shampoo bottle for your cask strength single malt...

[IanDarkpeak]

Sleeping bag I have one of these from Alpkit http://www.alpkit.com/shop/cart.php?...ategory_id=253

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why put a zip in it??? the only thing it adds is weight. certainly no warmth. for an ultra weight bag do you need a zip?? mine doesn't have a zip and i have no problems with it.

[Stevie]

PHD make some good products. I use a PHD Minimus sleeping bag
http://www.phdesigns.co.uk/product_i...products_id=31
Think I paid £160 for mine a few years ago but it has been a good investment.

Zips - even baffled ones - are just a route for the cold to get in.

[Splatcher]

PHD make some good products. I use a PHD Minimus sleeping bag
http://www.phdesigns.co.uk/product_i...products_id=31
Think I paid £160 for mine a few years ago but it has been a good investment.

Zips - even baffled ones - are just a route for the cold to get in.

Agree completely. Mine's a PHD Minim 400, bought years ago for lightweight backpacking, but I use it for MMs now. If I was buying a MM sleeping bag now I'd go for a slightly lighter one, & I guess that's the Minimus. Narrow cut, top quality down, no extras to add weight.

[molehill]

why put a zip in it??? the only thing it adds is weight. certainly no warmth. for an ultra weight bag do you need a zip?? mine doesn't have a zip and i have no problems with it.

I agree entirely, except this bag wasn't purchased specifically for MMs, I can't afford that luxury as I don't do MM's as a sport. It has been through Tasmania and N.Zealand where much of the time it was unzipped or even used as a light duvet, been far too hot without the zip. Also used here on my solo nights out when I need it very much 'zipped up'. So it's an excellent compromise.

I might purchase another for MMs (if I start doing them regularly) and have been looking at the PHD's for some time (minimus range), but a lot of cash if it's not something I actually need.

[Marvin]

I agree entirely, except this bag wasn't purchased specifically for MMs, I can't afford that luxury as I don't do MM's as a sport. It has been through Tasmania and N.Zealand where much of the time it was unzipped or even used as a light duvet, been far too hot without the zip. Also used here on my solo nights out when I need it very much 'zipped up'. So it's an excellent compromise.

I might purchase another for MMs (if I start doing them regularly) and have been looking at the PHD's for some time (minimus range), but a lot of cash if it's not something I actually need.

Sounds like you do need one. I can't see how you'll manage the OMM without. Convincing?

[Wheeze]

Well, I'm not convinced...yet. Used a fairly heavy (by todays standards) Sug-Pak to lug around 3 Peaks Yacht race and several Scottish Islands Peaks races...alright I did'nt have to sleep in it but have used it camping as well and its fine. Wt did not seem to be a huge issue. Price point for a sub-kilo down 3 season seems to be £150 which is a lot of wonga for summat thats gonna be used once a year at most. Put in perspective thats nealy 3 pairs of walshies that will get loads of use or 3 times as much as a kilo wt bag. I'm all for quality kit but not for throwing money for the sake of it.