I just worry we're now at a stage in Wales where the organiser makes the call on safety, not the runner, so if a full route is ran, well it must be safe as the full route is ran.. I'd rather it is pushed on to the runner, run slower, wear more clothes navigate, DNF if you get cold, get lost, but enjoy the challenge rather than a shift to marked trail races..

which the 1000m peaks increasingly is.. less and less route choice.. its a 'mountaineers' race, then test mountaineering skills.. as said its the organisers call, but its a race I doubt I'll do again when at the same time of year I could do Jura, Ennerdale, Duddon or OcT and be much more confident of getting the challenge I am after..

There's a difference between mild frontal weather, like the Peris, which was very similar to the full Jura route in 2009, and then 3-4 deg C and strong winds.. The fact that you had a guy out for 27 hrs during the same weather suggests it could have gone.. you'd just have had to wear a jacket and have some sense..

If you want to see lack of sense.. stand at the finger post at Bwlch glass and watch runners and walkers hit the bwlch before they add layers.. then either struggling in westerly gales to put jackets on or getting colder and colder.. it should be pretty obvious that the moment you pop up its going to be breezy..

And now we'll get the blah blah 'organise a race'.. I organise a weekly run, I help out on more paddy's, almost always night legs when most of you lot are tucked up in bed, so I've paid my dues to be able to comment on the future of fell running... Last year I'd been travelling yet someone was going to be doing a paddy leg over the glyders at night, yet didn't know the terrain, so I slept on a rock and waited for a guy I never knew, never met, to show him the route.. I was absolutely knackered but expected few other local runners would be willing to help him..and as expected no one did.. so yes I've given enough back to comment..