Or you could just ask the RO to brand you with your number, it would definitely be waterproof then...might mean that you can only run in one race though unless you pump up your pecs to make more space for the next one.
Originally Posted by TheReverand
can I run vestless if I put the safety pins through my skin thus still displaying the number on my torso? I'm hard like that, it gets my psyched for a race
No - passed me by that one. Perhaps Muds best thread contributions though. Love the one about using the horse as a beaconNice to see old Fellmonster on there as well
Wholeheartedly agree. Anyone who's taken time out to do a spot of marshalling will know that numbers on shorts are never mounted in a central position. They show to one side. EG if your number is on the left leg of your shorts, that's ideal for marshals stood on the LHS of a trod/path, but a total ball-ache for marshals stood on the RHS of the path, and vice-versa; unless of course, these fairy-brained individuals are prepared to deviate from the path and pass the marshalling point so that their individualism displays clearly to the marshals. Even worse are the idiots crossing over to fell running from trail and adventure racing, who pin their numbers to their bumbag / ruc-sac. At somewhere like CP1 ( Causey Pike ) on the TWA, it's a full time job taking numbers of those popping up over the crag as they approach you; without having to turn around and attempt to read numbers on the bumbags of those descending away from you.Oh, and anyone caught pinning their race number (folded or not folded) on their shorts is a BALLbag. What's wrong with it on your vest?
All of which can be simply got round by shouting out your number if asked. The RO could even ask 'fairy-brained' leg pinners to always pin on their left leg? Not an insurmountable problem then really, especially as it won't be covered by a windproof/waterproof top?.
As for 'idiots' crossing over from trail running, can I just say that the numbering in the LL50/100 was completely brilliant. You were dibbered anyway but also had your number stuck to your back pack with your christian name on, making for really nice conversations with all the runners you met along the way.
Don't mean to be rude, but have you actually marshalled in a race and tried to read the numbers?
It's not just an issue of the fact that it's on a leg, but also the fact that the folded number makes it harder to read. As does the fact that the leg is moving continuously and faster than the torso.
With regards windproof/waterproof tops, then as a runner, you'll have to make sure that the top is lifted briefly at CPs to make sure that the number can be read and recorded by the marshals.
I don't understand why this is difficult to understand. Or why some people have such an issue with it? Except that you're all curmudgeons who fear change of any description maybe?
(And this is coming from a grumpy curmudgeon who suffers from depression - which is why I run, as it helps. Except I don't fear change, because everything is changing all the time)
To be fair fozzy I'm not that bothered and I haven't even been running many races this year because I need to be (and often prefer to be) out running with my border collie at the weekends. In fact, thinking back, of all the races I've run this year only one of them has not been dibbered. That said I'll hopefully have more cover for Harry (the collie) next year, when my elder daughter returns from Oz, so I might be running a few more races in 2014.
I don't run for a club though and don't have a racing vest and kind of feel a bit miffed drilling pin holes into my running tops (prefering to drill holes into my shorts or leggings). More to the point to me fell running is all about the freedom of running in the hills where and how I want to and daft rules dealing with exactly where I can or can't pin a race number kind of seem ridiculously petty.
I doubt the FRA is going to worry too much about me and my 'curmudgeonly' views anyway
Last edited by Stolly; 14-08-2013 at 10:34 AM.
Fair enough.To be fair fozzy I'm not that bothered and I haven't even been running many races this year because I need to be (and often prefer to be) out running with my border collie at the weekends. In fact, thinking back, of all the races I've run this year only one of them has not been dibbered. That said I'll hopefully have more cover for Harry (the collie) next year, when my elder daughter returns from Oz, so I might be running a few more races in 2014.
I don't run for a club though and don't have a racing vest and kind of feel a bit miffed drilling pin holes into my running tops (prefering to drill holes into my shorts or leggings). More to the point to me fell running is all about the freedom of running in the hills where and how I want to and daft rules dealing with exactly where I can or can't pin a race number kind of seem ridiculously petty to me.
I doubt the FRA is going to worry too much about me and my 'curmudgeonly' views anyway
But, I just want to make one point, as you've made the same mistake that a lot of people do.
The "new" rules have absolutely nothing to do with fell running. You can do whatever the hell you like on your own, with club mates, friends, whenever you want. (There's an argument to be made about not damaging the sports reputation by doing illegal things like trespassing, and such like, which the vast majority of fell runners understand, but I digress).
These rules apply only to fell racing and like it or not, the world has changed (I agree, probably not for the better). There are outside pressures on the sport from legal and sporting bodies. Unfortunately we can't do anything about this.
As far as I can see the "new" rules (actually only clarifications really) are there to allow fell races to continue being staged, to allow us to continue to enjoy racing and testing ourselves on the fells, and to make it as safe and as easy as possible for everyone in the sport - runners, marshals, race organisers and officials and yes, even the administrators.
If this means, as a runner, that you have to pin your number to the front of your vest/t-shirt to make it easier for marshals to read numbers, then this is a small price to pay to be allow everyone to race on the fells.
They might seem petty changes to you (and others seem to agree with you), but put yourself on that safety committee and ask why have they made the clarifications they've made? Is there an obvious reason. If you really can't see a good reason, and I'd argue that some have been made on this forum, by myself and others - particularly on this issue of pinning race numbers - from race marshals who have clearly stated that numbers unfolded and on the front of torsos are much, much easier to read, then I'd say email Graham or the other people who've come up with these rules and ask (politely) why the rule has been changed/clarified. State your case why you think it's unnecessary in a clear and logical fashion and then see what the response is. Otherwise, it's just whining.
And if you don't have a racing vest - here you go - http://www.peteblandsports.co.uk/pro...-vest-blue.htm £10 from Pete Bland. I'm sure you can find somewhere else just as cheap in PB isn't your retailer of choice. Sportsshoes.com have one for £5. http://www.sportsshoes.com/product/N...-singlet-vest/
What? You mean I don't have to pin a number to my vest when I'm out running on my own?? :w00t: Phew.....
Well, I do, just to make it look like I'm racing all the time :wink:, but you don't if you don't want to....What? You mean I don't have to pin a number to my vest when I'm out running on my own?? :w00t: Phew.....
I think having a race number on all the time make you look cool.
Ha ha ha ha love it. :thumbup:
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