Tonight's football thread

[Danbert Nocurry]

It was a good interview but the press question was strange.. about being thin skinned?

As manager of United he had to control the press as much as he could, thats just testament to the power of todays press, they really can dictate how people view issues. look at Blair missing an important vote (was it?) so he could get Murdochs support for his 97 campaign..

But also the press do affect the players, they read the papers, so he didnt want players affected.

Also strange about falling out with all his ex players.. when in reality its just been a few and few long standing ones..

I think he was right about keane, his anger at the end was from his inability to accept he was not the same player, but otherwise plenty of ex players back him, Eck, Bruce, Ince now, Mclair, Phelan, Scholes, Giggs, Butt, Nevilles, VDS, Schmeichel.. he fell out with most at some point but few long term, I think even strachan and him buired the hatchett in the end.

Iain if I'm being absolutely honest I can't even stand to look at an image of Bacon-face anywhere, be it TV, magazine, newspaper, whatever, I dislike the bullying, self-centred control freak that much.

And right now I actually think he's walked away from the fight because he knew he couldn't win.

It's the same with all bullies, they cannot stand to lose the control,

Having said all of that there is one picture of him that I adore, I can stare at if for hours on end.That is the picture of his purple nosed, florid, bacon like chops as the disgusting realisation dawned on him that "little City" had " literally" forcefully snatched the premiership trophy out of his sweaty pudgy hands and claimed it as their own ...thanks to Sergio.

He will never get over that, not ever.

Despite all his manipulations, bullying and power brokering, at the end of the day City pissed on his parade.

It will haunt him to the end.

[IainR]

Iain if I'm being absolutely honest I can't even stand to look at an image of Bacon-face anywhere, be it TV, magazine, newspaper, whatever, I dislike the bullying, self-centred control freak that much.

And right now I actually think he's walked away from the fight because he knew he couldn't win.

It's the same with all bullies, they cannot stand to lose the control,

Having said all of that there is one picture of him that I adore, I can stare at if for hours on end.That is the picture of his purple nosed, florid, bacon like chops as the disgusting realisation dawned on him that "little City" had " literally" forcefully snatched the premiership trophy out of his sweaty pudgy hands and claimed it as their own ...thanks to Sergio.

He will never get over that, not ever.

Despite all his manipulations, bullying and power brokering, at the end of the day City pissed on his parade.

It will haunt him to the end.

You are hilarious... why would you take over United with liverpool in their pomp is you were scared of a fight... comeon Fergie saw off enough challengers over 26 years to seriously think he thought he couldn't win..

You hate him because he's successful.. it's called envy son... don't let it eat you up..

[Feet in the Cowclaps]

Holloway gone.

[Danbert Nocurry]

You are hilarious... why would you take over United with liverpool in their pomp is you were scared of a fight... comeon Fergie saw off enough challengers over 26 years to seriously think he thought he couldn't win..

You hate him because he's successful.. it's called envy son... don't let it eat you up..

Iain what you fail to understand is that United winning the league last year, painful though it was, was definitely to our long term advantage.

That Bacon-face felt he could resign, having taken the title back, will I believe prove to have significantly damaged United in the long term.

It was clear to anyone that United's squad had two glaring and systemic problems at its heart. A lack of power and purpose in midfield and a rapidly ageing defence.

Rather than take steps to address these deficiencies and to build again for the long term, however, Bacon-face elected to go for a quick fix to get the League back off City.

He bought Van Persie, a man rapidly approaching his 30th birthday. This was at odds with his previous management style when attempting to recover from footballing adversity, where he took great risks when rebuilding: selling Ince, Hughes and Kanchelskis and going with the "kids" was one such example.

On this occasion, however, he went for the quick fix - because he was so consumed with reclaiming the title from City, no other considerations entered his thoughts in any meaningful sense.

Because his energies were entirely focused on taking the title back off City he gave little or no thought to the problems which now threaten to overwhelm United's squad.

When squad’s age there comes a point when things can unravel very quickly - United are now at that point.

Everyone has an Achilles-heel and Bacon-face's was that he loved winning so much, and hating losing to City so much, especially in that manner, that he went fighting his own selfish battle, rather than the one that was in the best interests of United.

Sergio's goal, it seems to me, will become even more significant and beautiful with the passage of time.

[Alf]

Mark Bosnich was not too happy with Fergie's comments about him and in between mouthfuls of pie he made it plain "The fact remains that I was the only player he signed twice at Manchester United". Of course the biggest disappointment about Mark Bosnich was for the local takeaways when he left and they had a sudden plummeting of profits

[Alf]

I missed most of the 1st half of the City match tonight and all of the goals but they got the result even though the City defence wasn't too convincing. I couldn't believe those CSKA neo-nazis chanting against Yaya when they had two black players of their own, and probably their best players, in the team

I think CSKA should also decide whether they want a football pitch or a tractor testing ground as well

United next up with some big name omissions from their team ?

[IainR]

Iain what you fail to understand is that United winning the league last year, painful though it was, was definitely to our long term advantage. That Bacon-face felt he could resign, having taken the title back, will I believe prove to have significantly damaged United in the long term. It was clear to anyone that United's squad had two glaring and systemic problems at its heart. A lack of power and purpose in midfield and a rapidly ageing defence. Rather than take steps to address these deficiencies and to build again for the long term, however, Bacon-face elected to go for a quick fix to get the League back off City. He bought Van Persie, a man rapidly approaching his 30th birthday. This was at odds with his previous management style when attempting to recover from footballing adversity, where he took great risks when rebuilding: selling Ince, Hughes and Kanchelskis and going with the "kids" was one such example. On this occasion, however, he went for the quick fix - because he was so consumed with reclaiming the title from City, no other considerations entered his thoughts in any meaningful sense. Because his energies were entirely focused on taking the title back off City he gave little or no thought to the problems which now threaten to overwhelm United's squad. When squad’s age there comes a point when things can unravel very quickly - United are now at that point. Everyone has an Achilles-heel and Bacon-face's was that he loved winning so much, and hating losing to City so much, especially in that manner, that he went fighting his own selfish battle, rather than the one that was in the best interests of United. Sergio's goal, it seems to me, will become even more significant and beautiful with the passage of time.

You are having a laugh.. clearly it was good for you that we won... and your manager was sacked.. superb.. bread and butter..

[Danbert Nocurry]

You are having a laugh.. clearly it was good for you that we won... and your manager was sacked.. superb.. bread and butter..

Buy the book if you don't believe me - Apparently there is a whole chapter dedicated to our title victory that details how our Premier League success was almost impossible for him to stomach. Bacon-face says that his wife, Cathy, told him that the final day of the 2011-12 campaign was the worst day of her life, and as a consequence he was determined to usurp us before retirement.

[Danbert Nocurry]

Incredibly Bacon-Face talks of United’s 6-1 defeat by City as a ‘farce’ and claims - rather bizarrely - that United ‘battered’ City for 40 minutes and says that his wife would not leave home for fear of bumping into City supporters.


Let’s be honest though, there is no way Bacon-Faces book could ever be a truthful or fully accurate account. He couldn’t tell the full story about the racehorse business, and he couldn’t discuss the true reason why such an average side achieved so much. That would entail writing about the bullying tactics, the intimidation of referees and assistants, the grooming of the same through gifts and texts, of using his Sir status to benefit that shower of a club, and the capitulation of the FA towards him particularly with discipline issues, etc, etc.

[IainR]

Buy the book if you don't believe me - Apparently there is a whole chapter dedicated to our title victory that details how our Premier League success was almost impossible for him to stomach. Bacon-face says that his wife, Cathy, told him that the final day of the 2011-12 campaign was the worst day of her life, and as a consequence he was determined to usurp us before retirement.

so fergie found defeat hard.... and he knocked you off your effing perch... any more gleaming insights... you are one crazy weird guy.. world worst loser didnt like losing...