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    Quote Originally Posted by Witton Park View Post
    We tracked it down already.
    It is amazing the change when 21 days ago it was 46 to 33 in favour of MPs ruling out "No Deal" 11% change in 21 days seems unbelivable.

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    When the same poll is broken down between Tory & Labour.

    TORIES
    No deal 76%
    Remain 19%
    Don't know 4%

    LABOUR
    No deal 26%
    Remain 61%
    Don't know 14%

    So imagine the Tory attitude to a collaboration with Corbyn for a BRINO, and the flip, the Labour attitude to a collaboration with May to any form of Brexit.
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    This is a strange question though, as it starts with "if we haven't agreed a deal..."

    So essentially the option of "a deal" has been removed. I'd be interested to see the figures if this were an option. I suspect some Conservatives wouldn't like the option of "a deal" because they tend to be more pro no-deal, and I suspect some Labour voters wouldn't like it because although they favour "a deal" they probably won't like what they see as the Conservative deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noel View Post
    This is a strange question though, as it starts with "if we haven't agreed a deal..."

    So essentially the option of "a deal" has been removed. I'd be interested to see the figures if this were an option. I suspect some Conservatives wouldn't like the option of "a deal" because they tend to be more pro no-deal, and I suspect some Labour voters wouldn't like it because although they favour "a deal" they probably won't like what they see as the Conservative deal.
    Mmmh. My head hurts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by noel View Post
    This is a strange question though, as it starts with "if we haven't agreed a deal..."

    So essentially the option of "a deal" has been removed. I'd be interested to see the figures if this were an option. I suspect some Conservatives wouldn't like the option of "a deal" because they tend to be more pro no-deal, and I suspect some Labour voters wouldn't like it because although they favour "a deal" they probably won't like what they see as the Conservative deal.
    There's a date attached Noel and it is framed that way to see if the public are happy to constantly see the can kicked down the road.

    I imported extra stock from the EU in March preparing for the 29th. Enough to keep me going until Mid-end May.

    I advised my key EU customers to buy ahead and most did.

    What now?

    Uncertainty is the biggest issue for business, travellers, drivers....

    I'm on a holiday in Pollensa, Majorca in June with the family. We'll need 2-3 vehicles.

    I'm OK with WTO as I'm used to the procedures, as are most importers & exporters. But cannot keep making decisions on guesswork like this.
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    I've put three Danish pastries from Greggs in the freezer, just in case.

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    Au contraire. Almost all tories I know prefer an equitable deal. Mogg, Davis and Johnson all do. But they are also realistic enough to know the EU has no intention of offering other than a humiliation, not least because of the stupidity of our " no to no deal MPs"

    And in the choice between no deal or prolonging the humiliation, we vote no deal every time.
    And when the planes fly, and trade carries on, thevpower of EU to Blackmail disappears as does a bill for 39 billion. Then for the first time EU will be obliged to treat us as partners.

    The problem is a house of reminder MPs to whom the meaningful vote was always intended as abrexit wrecker. Yvette coopers and the speakers unconstitutional behaviour is shameful. As is the house for supporting anarchy.



    Quote Originally Posted by noel View Post
    This is a strange question though, as it starts with "if we haven't agreed a deal..."

    So essentially the option of "a deal" has been removed. I'd be interested to see the figures if this were an option. I suspect some Conservatives wouldn't like the option of "a deal" because they tend to be more pro no-deal, and I suspect some Labour voters wouldn't like it because although they favour "a deal" they probably won't like what they see as the Conservative deal.
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    Then google it properly instead. Use Europe as comparison.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area...pean_countries
    England ( as opposed to uk) has one of the highest population densities in europe, other than a few minute states,
    It also has one of the biggest increases due to migrancy. So already too high is up 10 percent more.

    Now the REAL problem: which is not about absolute density, Even labours unicorn housing pledge cannot keep up with migrants, at the levels of 300-500000 and migrants don't bring houses with them. And most of them seemingly want to live in such as London where there is nowhere left to build, so rents begin to rocket.

    That is not sustainable. EU refuses to help address it and verhofstadt is determined to make it worse. I wish people would engage with the real issues. There would be less remainers if they did.

    migration is a symptom. Not the problem. The real problem EU also refuses to address which is the inevitable worsening of imbalance because of a currency union without political union.




    Quote Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry View Post
    I googled "countries by population density" The UK is way down in 49th place. So hardly full. There is an "infrastructure" issue but no goverment has the balls to really tackle it by encouraging more dense housing, energy conservation, and force people to use public transport/ more sustainable means of travel. I may be wrong but making the country poorer will only make the problem worse not better.

    In my own little town, that is on the edge of the Peak District National Park, a new housing development is just being finished. They are all detatched, it is utter madness.

    http://statisticstimes.com/demograph...on-density.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
    Then google it properly instead. Use Europe as comparison.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area...pean_countries
    England ( as opposed to uk) has one of the highest population densities in europe, other than a few minute states,
    It also has one of the biggest increases due to migrancy. So already too high is up 10 percent more.

    Now the REAL problem: which is not about absolute density, Even labours unicorn housing pledge cannot keep up with migrants, at the levels of 300-500000 and migrants don't bring houses with them. And most of them seemingly want to live in such as London where there is nowhere left to build, so rents begin to rocket.

    That is not sustainable. EU refuses to help address it and verhofstadt is determined to make it worse. I wish people would engage with the real issues. There would be less remainers if they did.

    migration is a symptom. Not the problem. The real problem EU also refuses to address which is the inevitable worsening of imbalance because of a currency union without political union.
    There is another issue linked to some of my earlier posts.

    University admissions are at record levels.

    We have close to 2 million students in higher education here in the UK. Most in year 1 go in halls, but the rest go in rented accommodation.

    That's around 1.5 million students now looking for accommodation.

    Of course it was always the case. but the numbers are double what they were back in the 80s and early 90s.

    So that is something around 150-200k large family homes that are now student accommodation, almost all in the towns and cities and almost all in areas that would have been considered "affordable housing" in the area.
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