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    Quote Originally Posted by Llani Boy View Post
    You should know better. There are riots in Ulster every Easter which "celebrate" the Easter Rising and I know that Brexit seems to have been around a long time it has not been here for 103 years! So to connect the shooting to Brexit is bollocks and you know it.
    Whilst on this subject it seems to me that the journalistic world are going overboard about the shooting and making her out to be some sort of heroine. More like stupid for hanging around police armoured vehicles that were under attack.
    What was she doing there? Probably looking for a minor police misdemeanor to blow out of all proportion rather than any serious reporting.
    No sympathy whatsoever.
    Very very poor post.

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    How does not having sympathy for someone make me a "right wing extremist"?. Perhaps my understanding of the word sympathy is different to others.
    If someone was told not to go on a mountain ridge due to thunder storms but still went and got struck by lightening I would have no sympathy. If someone was told not to go into a cave system because of heavy rain and still did and came unstuck again I would have no sympathy.
    The journalist putting herself in the highly dangerous place that she did, along with the others that were there, is not heroic just plain stupid.
    Right wing extremist? I don't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry View Post
    Not to mention two dead women. Where the heightened tension in society caused, in part, by brexit, contributed to their deaths.
    And no they did not die solely because of brexit, so don't accuse me of saying that.
    Pretty pathetic to link it at all to Brexit in my opinion. Are you so unsure of your arguments that you have to stoop to that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Mole View Post
    and round we go
    He’s right though isn’t he. You’re not able to engage with his arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llani Boy View Post
    How does not having sympathy for someone make me a "right wing extremist"?. Perhaps my understanding of the word sympathy is different to others.
    If someone was told not to go on a mountain ridge due to thunder storms but still went and got struck by lightening I would have no sympathy. If someone was told not to go into a cave system because of heavy rain and still did and came unstuck again I would have no sympathy.
    The journalist putting herself in the highly dangerous place that she did, along with the others that were there, is not heroic just plain stupid.
    Right wing extremist? I don't think so.
    Journalists go into dangerous situations, because dangerous situations are often newsworthy. Mostly they have good intuition as to how to keep safe. Maybe Lyra McKee thought it would be safer to stand next to the police than in the middle of the rioters; that would seem sensible to me.

    Maybe she was unwise, maybe not deserving of sympathy; but your earlier suggestion that she was looking for some police misdemeanour was completely out of order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llani Boy View Post
    You should know better. There are riots in Ulster every Easter which "celebrate" the Easter Rising and I know that Brexit seems to have been around a long time it has not been here for 103 years! So to connect the shooting to Brexit is bollocks and you know it.
    Whilst on this subject it seems to me that the journalistic world are going overboard about the shooting and making her out to be some sort of heroine. More like stupid for hanging around police armoured vehicles that were under attack.
    What was she doing there? Probably looking for a minor police misdemeanor to blow out of all proportion rather than any serious reporting.
    No sympathy whatsoever.
    Llani Boy, at times you show no intelligence whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever View Post
    He’s right though isn’t he. You’re not able to engage with his arguments.
    I've done my best.

    It went along the lines of: while I agree the situation with Italian banks is a cause for concern, it's not a failing of the EU per se, more a failing of how they have handled the situation following the global credit crunch. Also, it doesn't make the whole European project something to turn our backs on (in my opinion).

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    Quote Originally Posted by noel View Post
    I've done my best.

    It went along the lines of: while I agree the situation with Italian banks is a cause for concern, it's not a failing of the EU per se, more a failing of how they have handled the situation following the global credit crunch. Also, it doesn't make the whole European project something to turn our backs on (in my opinion).
    All I can say is study currency unions and why they always fail. The euro was EUs decision so it certainly is EUs failure. You can't have a different opinion on that. It is a fact they always fail. It is also EU banking rules that have put Italian banks in an impossible position.

    As for turning our back on it, the EU refused to negotiate with Cameron, and refuse to negotiate either withdrawal or trade. So remain and reform is a unicorn. It was also EU changed from a trading block to a non democratic superstate. They turned their backs on us.
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    Having never meet Llani boy and fully understand he calls a spade a spade, he does have a very fair and honest point.

    Why go into a war zone with no protection?

    It's not a nice thing to happen but could have been prevented if she had thought more seriously about what and where she was.

    She put herself in danger with no thoughts for her family or loved ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stagger View Post
    Having never meet Llani boy and fully understand he calls a spade a spade, he does have a very fair and honest point.

    Why go into a war zone with no protection?

    It's not a nice thing to happen but could have been prevented if she had thought more seriously about what and where she was.

    She put herself in danger with no thoughts for her family or loved ones.
    Firstly, Derry/Londonderry is not a "war zone". Maybe 40 years ago it was commonplace for thugs to take potshots at the police (and journalists were aware of this), but not now.

    Secondly, I am actually very grateful that there are brave reporters willing to go into dangerous situations (with proper precautions): we need to know what is going in Syria, Yemen, etc.

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