Quote Originally Posted by noel View Post
I don't like it when people twist my words to different situations (but I realise I seem to be doing it a lot on this thread - sorry), but...

Are you saying the conservative MPs who disagreed with the withdrawal agreement should have got on board or resigned? There was a clear majority within their party to support the WA. But they didn't get on board or resign, they went and briefed the press on what a bad idea it was.

Again, I think this comes down to perspective. They thought they were right, and in that instance they stood their ground and fought and won.
You make a good point Noel. However the Tory MP's who voted against the withdrawal agreement could at least say they were honouring the commitments made in their 2017 manifesto. The withdrawal agreement didn't do that.

You can't say the same for the Tory rebels this time. They stood on a manifesto commitment to leave the Single Market and Customs Union and that the UK would leave with no-deal if we couldn't get a good deal. So why stand on that ticket if they had no intention of honouring it? Not only that but they voted in favour of opposition legislation designed to humiliate their leader and against a policy that he had only recently been elected overwhelmingly on by Tory MP's and members.

Personally I think that's a different order of things. Look at it this way. Let's suppose Johnson wins a majority in the general election that is surely coming. What is the point of having them as Tory MP's if they yet again vote against and thwart Johnson's policy even after he has a mandate from the public for it? It might seem tough but I think they had to go.