Quote Originally Posted by CL View Post
I wonder how long it'll be before Muddy tells us a vote for The Brexit party will put the Labour party in power? Actually the other way around works just as well: a vote for the Conservative party - instead of the Brexit party - is potentially a vote for Labour.
You'll be pleased to know that I'm not going to disappoint you. A vote for the Brexit party could indeed put the Labour party in power if the polls narrow from where they are at the moment. This is entirely down to our electoral system, which means the Leave vote will be split in some constituencies. This could deny the Conservative candidate victory with a LibDem or Labour candidate coming through the middle to win instead. In fact this is exactly what did happen at the Brecon and Radnorshire by-election in August.

And no it doesn't work the other way around just as well. At the moment the average poll ranking has the Tories on 39% with the Brexit party on only 10%. In 2015 UKIP won 12.6% of the vote but picked up only one seat. I doubt the Brexit party will win any but they'll surely deny the Tories a fair number.
Quote Originally Posted by CL View Post
The Conservatives have no moral superiority over the The Brexit Party to be deserving of government. If anything The Brexit Party is the only party now standing up for Brexiteers. And this new treaty is just the Conservative party sticking together whilst they hoodwink the Leave voters. Think about it. The Conservatives are a mixture of leave and remain. How is Boris going to get the support of Tory Remainers? By Graham's analogy of course: compromise. Which can mean only one thing...... Remain.

I didn't vote leave to compromise. And the Remainers certainly didn't vote Remain to compromise. It was an in out referendum. Boris is selling us out to satisfy his party and reach out to Remainers. But the Remainers were never going to reach out to us.
What is it about the deal Boris agreed that makes you think it is like remaining? The vast majority of people who have been euro-sceptics for many years would disagree with you. And that includes people in the Brexit party like the MEP John Longworth. I think there has already been a couple of Brexit party candidates who have stood down because they disagree with Farage. Even Arron Banks, his old chum and campaign donor has said he supports Boris' deal.

Let's be honest there could have been nothing that Boris had agreed that Farage would accept. He would prefer Brexit not to happen at all than lose the limelight. Dare I say it perhaps he enjoys the trappings of the Brussels gravy train a bit too much.