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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever View Post
    South Korea spends about 8% of its GDP on health while we spend just under 10%. Who has performed better?

    It’s s not just how much you spend but how you spend it. South Korea got it right from an early stage by testing and tracing. We didn’t. Look closer to home and the poster boy for Western Europe is Germany, who have tested many times the number in the UK. Their health system is decentralised unlike ours and unlike us they have utilised private sector labs.

    Public Health England has rebuffed numerous offers of help from private sector labs. Why is this Mike? Is it ideology? I really hope not.
    The role and accuracy of testing is hotly disputed.
    As indeed the reason for Germany or South Korea’s death rates.

    Has South Korea delayed the inevitable, or is it a population difference?
    By way of comparison asthma percentage in UK and such as Spain are double that in Germany and South Korea.
    Belgium does similar testing to Germany but is the worst performer.

    Medics simply don’t know the answers for certain, it’s all new. Which is why I find the rhetoric from many of them so jarring.:If they all agreed we would go that way. They don’t. But they all want to criticise whatever is done with 2020 hindsight as does miket. Journalists are not helping by ignoring the problem of test validation. Numbers matter nothing, if the test is only 75 percent. Which with 20 percent assymptomatic is highly likely.

    What is less in dispute is how PHE has not only rebuffed help , but has also sequestered the PCR machines from the labs ( including OHs,) that could have helped to Develop tests, so is actually hindering response.
    Considering that big biotech lab has developed vaccines , monoclonals, Biologics, and routinely uses and manipulates virus genetics: and unlike most university labs, it knows how to control process and validate for regulatory approval.


    PHE want sacking by leaving their star players on the touch line, The public health service needs a major restructure.
    Like most public sector it is expensive, ineffective and inefficient. But I will wager it has a world class “diversity” manager, pension and holiday days per year.

    But no doubt it will get a clap from the public , just as the pharma sector is given another kicking.
    Last edited by Oracle; 19-04-2020 at 10:18 PM.

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