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What beautiful photos, especially the landscapes. Look forward to re-visiting your site.Quote:
Originally Posted by IWCharters
Best wishes for your recovery, Amex. Sounds like you were extremely well handled by fellow runners, your rescuers and medics alike.
don't suppose anyone can help me find the results for the 2009 race? - can't seem to locate them on the ambleside ac website ....
www.fellrunner.org.ukQuote:
Originally Posted by ZootHornRollo
Look under results then choose 2009 from top left.
Loads of old results to look at!
cheers RichQuote:
Originally Posted by RichT
Or you could try this :wink: :D
Sorry Zoot couldn't resist :)
That Ambleside site is bad for finding old results.
haha! I did have a right rummage around the ambleside website, could only find 2010 results ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Baggins
note to self - if in doubt try fellrunner.org.uk ... really didn't know archived results were on there
Doing a search on Google to get directions from Great Langdale campsite to the start of the race (for a recce) it's saying it's about half a mile away.
Is that right?
Or would you have to drive to the start from that campsite?
Thanks.
HiQuote:
Originally Posted by L.F.F.
I'd say it was nearer 1.5 miles from Chapel Stile campsite. It's a pleasant enough walk. Don't think there is much in teh way of parking near the start
Why go to the start? Why not begin your reccy at Blea Tarn? That's hardly any distance from Langdale.
It would probably depend on how long you want/have? The walk as stated is not that far but I agree with Marvin, make the walk from the campsite up the pass and down to the tarn and start beyond there perhaps? Parking is limited yes, you would have to park along the lane near the pub or use the NT car park by the tarn.
I'm not sure though how you'd feel doing the full route, running back down Lingmell knowing it was all uphill again along the road ( or tarn track ) back to the campsite? from memory it's further than you think or possibly want! Parhaps a pint in the pub afterwards would take your mind of that bit though? I remember a runner on the race bailing at the tarn, walking back to the pub and not getting there much before the runner that continued.
Are you staying at the main NT camp site? You can get to the road/tarn etc really easily from here the gate and paths can be accessed from the back of the site.
Thanks for the replies.
Seems like it's best to camp elsewhere or start from Blea Tarn.
The only reason I didn't want to start from there was that I wanted to get a proper feel for the race so wanted to start from the start.
Thanks for the help anyway. That's great.
it's not a great distance in the scheme of things, if you're not short of time: stroll / jog up to the pub (not looked at map but maybe there's an off-road option?) - do the recce - have a pint when finished and stroll back.
Think I'd better look at a map and see how far it might be. And might look at camping options as well.
See if you can locate the diagonal route up Birk Fell that follows a change in the rock stratification, it's only obvious when you're looking accross the valley from the 3 Shires Stone. On my recce i picked up a sheep trod along the full length but couldn't find it again on the race day; however, that turned out to be the least of my worries that day.Quote:
Originally Posted by L.F.F.
Hi, I didn't realise I was going up Birk Fell to be honest, so not sure about the trod!Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
Found the recce very interesting, though. The climb up Wetherlam was something else. Race map said there are various lines to take. I must say I don't think I found one. Just ended up ploughing through bracken pretty much all the way up.
I was quite surprised the times for this race seem to be quicker than for the Langdale Horseshoe based on my day (even though it's shorter) but recces can be a bit deceptive.
Great day out anyway.
(ps, not sure this should be in 'Long Distance Challenges', but still.)
I did a recce of this on Saturday and have to echo L.F.F.'s comments, I couldn't see any kind of line up Wetherlam and have to wonder if it wouldn't just be quicker running as far as the mine workings then going straight up the front, it was much grassier there and the bracken was bloody awful on the "diagonal" route. Other than that, all was OK-ish. I messed up the descent from Pike O' Blisco down to Blea Tarn Plantation (easy to do, I think) and got the "wrong" bit of wall, coming out on the wrong side of the tarn. Went back on Monday morning and did it in reverse, all is now fine.
there is a completely different "Three Shires" LDWA event in AprilQuote:
Originally Posted by L.F.F.
I suspect "somebody" may have got a bit carried away amalgamating threads and messed up
clearly this is the thread for the September race and so should be under Races....
Attachment 5058
Should anyone be interested, this is what you should be aiming for as you drop off Pike o' Blisco. Not immediately obvious, follow the trod to the East and the corner of the wall (see it above?) and the trees will come into view. Follow it round to the right and you'll see the two stiles where you begin the drop down to Blea Tarn Plantation.
Martyn
Actually, this one shows what's on the other side once you get past the ruined wall/stiles. The discoloured ferns/bracken show the line of descent, quite rocky and nasty underfoot though, care needed.
Attachment 5059
Recced it with a couple of friends a few weeks ago and we couldn't find the line up Wetherlam either. We went up to the mine workings and then took a line heading almost due South to the summit missing Birk Fell completely. It was steeper than it looks and tough going underfoot, can't imagine this is the best line somehow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martyn P
I've recced it a couple of times recently, and it's my opinion that the best line is the diagonal. after you go through the gate at the bottom of Birk fell carry on the path till you see a bare grassy patch in the bracken to the left, then run up this and into the bracken. looking up to the top of Wetherlam you should be able to see the grassy ramp mentioned on the back of the Harvey race map, this is what you should be heading for. There is no obvious path, and there are a couple of small rocky outcrops to skirt around, but everyone's in the same boat and will suffer, no matter what line they take.Quote:
Originally Posted by fellgazelle
(On race day last year I just followed the crowd up Wetherlam, their collective line was good, and the bracken was flattened enough to make the going a bit easier)
Thanks Ze Monsta, we obviously went too far up the Beck, but I geuss the route will be fairly obvious on the day?
It should be, enough people should know the route to take the crowd on the right line, just try and stick to as straight a diagonal line as you can.
Have you got the Harvey map with the instructions on the back? if not I can pm you a jpeg.
No I haven't, that would be most useful thanks.:thumbup:
Gentlemen, thank you. Seeing as it's unlikely I'll be anywhere near the front I'll take your advice and follow the flattened bracken! Just FYI, I found a nice link to a Garmin .khz file on the Scottish Hill Racing site last night and it appears to follow the Harvey map almost exactly. You can download this to your Garmin or drop it onto Google Earth ... not that I would stoop to using it on race day of course! Makes recces a bit pointless .... :)
The link would have helped wouldn't it? It's still early ......Quote:
Originally Posted by Martyn P
http://www.scottishhillracing.co.uk/...RaceID=RA-0260
Thanks for the photos for the descent off Blisco Martyn, probably the hardest part of the race to find the right line, but I can't open this attachment. would be really helpful as I'm heading up sunday aft for a final recce.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martyn P
Hmm, I can't open it either - I obviously messed that one up. Here it is again. See the conifer standing alone to the right? That's your target, but follow the discoloured bracken to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ze Monsta
Attachment 5061
Spot on Martyn. Made a hash of this last time, went way right, and the descent was a horror show.
Final recce this afternoon, the photos meant that My brother n' me had a relatively stress free descent from Blisco to Blea Tarn, thanks again for them Martyn.
Just praying now for a bit of decent weather on race day.
A pleasure, it's always nice when someone else benefits from my mistakes. Did I mention I took those photos on my second attempt??? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ze Monsta
Have been persuaded to go up to do another recce of the course tomorrow .... ah well, it's a nice day out in the fells! This will be my 4th time up Pike o' Blisco within two weeks, I feel like we're old friends :D Anyone else?
im guessing that you were out of the group i stoped and asked for the route down to blea tarn bridge before you headed up lingmoor today if so thanks again saved me getting wet!Quote:
Originally Posted by Martyn P
if it was you n your group is it not better to accend lingmoor via trod between wall and beck or way you went on right side of beck up col?
looking over to wetherlam the only ramp up seems to go through the juniper whitch were supposed to miss on the right?
suppose il just have to follow the leaders!
hope my ankle is ok by sat!
Yes, that was me/us - glad we saved you getting wet :) As far as the ascent up Lingmoor is concerned, well, good question. We were playing a bit of "follow my leader" there and although the ascent via the right hand side of the beck wasn't horrible and we connected to the wall line eventually, it might be better to stick to the wall from the start. That's the way I will be doing it on race day.
For Wetherlam, you keep that juniper on your left yes? The ascent on Saturday was better than the recce I did a few weeks before, seemed less rocky, though it still gets a bit gnarly towards the top and I have to wonder if there was a way round that misses the zig-zag miners' path towards the summit .... in any event, I reckon on the day we'll be able to follow the flattened bracken! I noticed that a lot of it was starting to go brown at the edges, it's starting to die back I think.
Hope your ankle improves for the race. I went for a jog around Coniston/Dow crag yesterday and wish I hadn't, everything feels very tight and clunky. Will take it easy this week, I think.
Martyn
Just looking at the website http://www.amblesideac.org.uk/3shires_2011.htm and noticed that hat and gloves are kit requirements. Just thought I'd flag that up after participating in the mad dash for Pete Blands van at the PPP this year, and reading the heated threads about mandatory kit checks and dq-ing the cheats on this forum.
[QUOTE=Ze Monsta;433051]Just looking at the website http://www.amblesideac.org.uk/3shires_2011.htm and noticed that hat and gloves are kit requirements. Just thought I'd flag that up after participating in the mad dash for Pete Blands van at the PPP this year, and reading the heated threads about mandatory kit checks and dq-ing the cheats on this forum.[/QUOTE
also mentions parking alternatives if feild to wet opp pub (hodgeclose) 25min walk