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Originally Posted by
christopher leigh
Yes tut,tut,tut only the uneducated would fail to agree with me!
The educated people that you talk about are nothing but whimp conformists, who've remembered everything and learnt nothing. They are incapable of taking an idea to it's roots, and deciding whether something is good or evil.
Science has many of such adherents. People who'll fix the data for a bit of extra government cash, whilst propagandising certain notions like global warming.(I've noticed they've been a bit quiet recently, what with all the snow).
Yes it is the so called educated people who have brought this country to its knees, and left the innocent at their mercy.
This is your best one yet.
You are brilliant.
Back in 2008 Scientists actually predicted we may well see no warming for a decade. Google multidecadal oscillation.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7376301.stm
When you've had a read come back and debate that point.
Noone has been quiet. Global warming is happening. We've just been out to Australia which is suffering record drought, tell them there's no change.
Yes those scientists at UEA were wrong, but what youa re trying to do above, taking a snippet of climate/weather from one location and using that as an argument against a global change is ignorant in the extreme.
You've out done yourself there, well done Christopher.
Science has revolutionised our world, from antibiotics, to cancer treatments. It's incredible how we keep making gains in medicine. To call these people 'so called educated' is just idiotic.
You also obviously have no idea how science funding works. BTW how many proposals have you submitted/reviewed/or had funded to speak with such authority on how government cash is gained?
Again an answer would be good.
Yours Dr IainR
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christopher[/left]
leigh
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. I on the other hand do not support the NHS. I recognise that my body isn't state property. Problem is, I'm forcibly taxed to pay for the NHS. Such taxation has left me at the mercy of the NHS, because I cannot afford to pay again for private health care. Therefore I accept NHS treatment
Calling me a hypocrite is a moral judgement, but morality is a matter of choice. There is no choice when it comes to paying taxes.
One last point. I do not regard NHS workers on the whole as evil.
yet you are happy to take private health care by doctors, nurses, and specialist trained by the tax payer at their expense. you are happy for the lowest paid to have no care at all because they could not pay for it...what a wonderful person you are.
i do not believe in the private sector but i have to pay again for what i once had till people like you sold it off to people like you. WATER, if i dont PAY i die. ELECTRIC AND GAS, if don'ti pay i freeze to death (why should anybody make billions every time a little old lady makes a cup of tea?)
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Originally Posted by
christopher leigh
Yes tut,tut,tut only the uneducated would fail to agree with me!
The educated people that you talk about are nothing but whimp conformists, who've remembered everything and learnt nothing. They are incapable of taking an idea to it's roots, and deciding whether something is good or evil.
Science has many of such adherents. People who'll fix the data for a bit of extra government cash, whilst propagandising certain notions like global warming.(I've noticed they've been a bit quiet recently, what with all the snow).
Yes it is the so called educated people who have brought this country to its knees, and left the innocent at their mercy.
.... nothing but absolute drivel, you're talking round in circles CL and going from one flawed argument to the next.
Education, whether formal or not, allows us to draw from a wealth of accumulated knowledge and human endeavour. Without it we are nothing. I don't want people to agree with me but be able to present well thought out and valid arguments for their points of view.
It allows you to see past the public facade of the BNP to their root which is race based politics. If you don't think that's evil then you've got some pretty infamous bed fellows. However it also allows you to realise that, in an educated and enlightened society, they've also got the right to be heard.
You're happy to do that because you know from history that the far right has never flourished in Britain (Moseley was a figure of fun). You're confident that the more chances they get to present their message the flimsier their facade becomes (I had no problem with Mr Griffin being on Question Time as he hardly covered himself in glory).
That's not being a "whimp comformist" it's being incredibly brave and showing a lot of faith in your fellow man.
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Originally Posted by
IainR
You also obviously have no idea how science funding works. BTW how many proposals have you submitted/reviewed/or had funded to speak with such authority on how government cash is gained?
we're still waiting for his much touted book to appear in the public domain.
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Originally Posted by
IainR
This is your best one yet.
You are brilliant.
Back in 2008 Scientists actually predicted we may well see no warming for a decade. Google multidecadal oscillation.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7376301.stm
When you've had a read come back and debate that point.
Noone has been quiet. Global warming is happening. We've just been out to Australia which is suffering record drought, tell them there's no change.
Yes those scientists at UEA were wrong, but what youa re trying to do above, taking a snippet of climate/weather from one location and using that as an argument against a global change is ignorant in the extreme.
You've out done yourself there, well done Christopher.
Science has revolutionised our world, from antibiotics, to cancer treatments. It's incredible how we keep making gains in medicine. To call these people 'so called educated' is just idiotic.
You also obviously have no idea how science funding works. BTW how many proposals have you submitted/reviewed/or had funded to speak with such authority on how government cash is gained?
Again an answer would be good.
Yours Dr IainR
You accuse me of taking a snippet of climate/weather from one location and using that as an argument against a global change. Then you cite Australia as an example of global warming!
Global warming means global warming. It does not mean global cooling. You can't have it both ways, although I can see the advantage in trying to make it mean all things to all men.
Science has made life better for us in many ways. That's true, but not all scientists are honourable. Some fix their results to suit the political climate, because they're directly or indirectly dependent on government cash.
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spring heeled jack
yet you are happy to take private health care by doctors, nurses, and specialist trained by the tax payer at their expense. you are happy for the lowest paid to have no care at all because they could not pay for it...what a wonderful person you are.
i do not believe in the private sector but i have to pay again for what i once had till people like you sold it off to people like you. WATER, if i
dont PAY i die. ELECTRIC AND GAS, if
don'ti pay i freeze to death (why should anybody make billions
every time a little old lady makes a cup of tea?)
I don't understand most of the first paragraph, or the second. Tell me this though? Who should pay for the little old lady's cup of tea?
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Originally Posted by
christopher leigh
You accuse me of taking a snippet of climate/weather from one location and using that as an argument against a global change. Then you cite Australia as an example of global warming!
Global warming means global warming. It does not mean global cooling. You can't have it both ways, although I can see the advantage in trying to make it mean all things to all men.
Science has made life better for us in many ways. That's true, but not all scientists are honourable. Some fix their results to suit the political climate, because they're directly or indirectly dependent on government cash.
As an average the atmosphere will get warmer....but because of some changes some place will get colder but not at the same rate as the places that are getting hotter. So on average it works out as GLOBAL warming even if a few places do cool.
Or are you so caught up in your conspiracies that you cant use simple logic
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Originally Posted by
nikalas
.... nothing but absolute drivel, you're talking round in circles CL and going from one flawed argument to the next.
Education, whether formal or not, allows us to draw from a wealth of accumulated knowledge and human endeavour. Without it we are nothing. I don't want people to agree with me but be able to present well thought out and valid arguments for their points of view.
It allows you to see past the public facade of the BNP to their root which is race based politics. If you don't think that's evil then you've got some pretty infamous bed fellows. However it also allows you to realise that, in an educated and enlightened society, they've also got the right to be heard.
You're happy to do that because you know from history that the far right has never flourished in Britain (Moseley was a figure of fun). You're confident that the more chances they get to present their message the flimsier their facade becomes (I had no problem with Mr Griffin being on Question Time as he hardly covered himself in glory).
That's not being a "whimp comformist" it's being incredibly brave and showing a lot of faith in your fellow man.
Education is useless if you don't have honesty. This quality is very quickly lost when one is punished for practising it. So I'll say again what you refuse to understand. Discrimination by the state is wrong. To single out the BNP as racists when the other parties also practise racism is very dishonest.
Your above argument also has traces of anxiety in it, because you know very well that people who have been discriminated against are turning to the BNP. Some are very educated and are sick of living in a country with no moral status, where fecklessness is rewarded and hard work punished.
Try telling those people the BNP are racists and see what they say.
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Originally Posted by
christopher leigh
Tell me this though? Who should pay for the little old lady's cup of tea?
Does it depend on whether she's evil or good? Remember she must be one or the other. And on whether she realises that the moral premises of the NHS are wrong? ;)
But seriously, I agree with where you're trying to lead me - she should pay for it.
BTW, I notice when losing an argument about the NHS, you quickly switch to global warming. When you're losing that one, are you going to switch back to government intervention? It's no wonder some of us still don't know what you're talking about.
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TurboTom
As an average the atmosphere will get warmer....but because of some changes some place will get colder but not at the same rate as the places that are getting hotter. So on average it works out as GLOBAL warming even if a few places do cool.
Or are you so caught up in your conspiracies that you cant use simple logic
Now now Tom. Ok so if I take the temperature of the globe today and tommorow and find that on average it is colder tommorow does that mean it's global warming?
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christopher leigh
Now now Tom. Ok so if I take the temperature of the globe today and tommorow and find that on average it is colder tommorow does that mean it's global warming?
NO....but you are using flawed logic...if you have a survey of 2 people then the results are going to be less accurate than if you surveyed 2000...same with the weather,
Its about warming over a long period of time not day to day, it is about long term not a short term event
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noel
Does it depend on whether she's evil or good? Remember she must be one or the other. And on whether she realises that the moral premises of the NHS are wrong? ;)
But seriously, I agree with where you're trying to lead me - she should pay for it.
BTW, I notice when losing an argument about the NHS, you quickly switch to global warming. When you're losing that one, are you going to switch back to government intervention? It's no wonder some of us still don't know what you're talking about.
I keep getting dragged around by the currents. Oh, what was the argument on the NHS that I was losing? Did you have an argument Noel?
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christopher leigh
I keep getting dragged around by the currents. Oh, what was the argument on the NHS that I was losing? Did you have an argument Noel?
It was whether you deserve more than others from the NHS because you know it's evil. General opinion was that you were talking rubbish. At this point you threw science and global warming in to the mix.
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Originally Posted by
TurboTom
NO....but you are using flawed logic...if you have a survey of 2 people then the results are going to be less accurate than if you surveyed 2000 #...same with the weather,
Its about warming over a long period of time not day to day
Less accurate? You're getting wound up in misconceptions. Is the murder of one million Men morally worse than than the murder of one Man?
Oh and what is a long period? 1hour, 1 day, 1 year, 1thousand years. Pick your time period and make the global warming argument fit.
Sorry Noel,...........currents.
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Originally Posted by
christopher leigh
Education is useless if you don't have honesty. This quality is very quickly lost when one is punished for practising it. So I'll say again what you refuse to understand. Discrimination by the state is wrong. To single out the BNP as racists when the other parties also practise racism is very dishonest.
Your above argument also has traces of anxiety in it, because you know very well that people who have been discriminated against are turning to the BNP. Some are very educated and are sick of living in a country with no moral status, where fecklessness is rewarded and hard work punished.
Try telling those people the BNP are racists and see what they say.
We've been there and done this before much earlier in this thread and I'm confident that my argument stands up.
However the other political parties and the government, despite their many obvious failings, don't:
- Have a leader who's been found guilty of inciting racial hatred.
- Have a leader who denies the holocaust.
- Have a party history that originates from fascist groups.
- Had high ranking party members recorded saying that they'd like to machine gun a mosque.
- Clung to a policy of only allowing caucasians to be party members.
etc, etc I could go on and you reckon it's not a racist party.
But, and I keep re-iterating this, they do have a right to be heard but I honestly can't see how anyone with half a brain or sense of decency can take them seriously, let alone vote for them.
Surely it's obvious to a goat that their media friendly facade hides a vile racist core.
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christopher leigh
Less accurate? You're getting wound up in misconceptions. Is the murder of one million Men morally worse than than the murder of one Man?
Oh and what is a long period? 1hour, 1 day, 1 year, 1thousand years. Pick your time period and make the global warming argument fit.
Sorry Noel,...........currents.
well as we know there have been fluctuations in the earths temperature before, we should use the time periods from those fluctuations and incorporate our data in order to make accurate predictions thus the a forecast of Global Warming that fits the argument...so shove that in your pipe and smoke it..and im shit at science however im not an egotistical, purposefully controversial, bitter runner :p.
As for morals, Morals are human emotion they differ from person to person, scientific fact cannot
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christopher leigh
I've answered the homosexuality and BNP questions on this and an earlier thread. Recently I was accused of being a bigot by an 'educated' forumite(Longdogs), and reprimanded by the moderators.
I therefore feel unable to honestly discuss this issue freely. Double that up with the possibility of some caveman crushing my skull with a club.
So you don't have the courage of your convictions to put your own simplistic good/evil or black/white definition to homosexuality.
Either you can't and that blows your whole simplistic argument out of the water or you haven't got the guts and, by your own definition, that makes you a morally corrupt wimp for not having the courage of your convictions.
I think, as the Americans would say, " and that's the ball game."
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TurboTom
well as we know there have been fluctuations in the earths temperature before, we should use the time periods from those fluctuations and incorporate our data in order to make accurate predictions thus the a forecast of Global Warming that fits the argument...so shove that in your pipe and smoke it..and im shit at science however im not an egotistical, purposefully controversial, bitter runner :p.
As for morals, Morals are human emotion they differ from person to person, scientific fact cannot
TT, it is interesting as a third party in education who doesn't really know you (I know who you are) to see how your arguments and style of writing has improved over the past year. This isn't meant as sarcasm but your use of language to debate has got much better. Can't remember your A-levels but some of the teachers are doing a good job with you!!
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biara
TT, it is interesting as a third party in education who doesn't really know you (I know who you are) to see how your arguments and style of writing has improved over the past year. This isn't meant as sarcasm but your use of language to debate has got much better. Can't remember your A-levels but some of the teachers are doing a good job with you!!
erm...i guess thanks, im doing History, Politics, Theology and Philosophy and German.
Just been practicing for essays and stuff really
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Originally Posted by
biara
TT, it is interesting as a third party in education who doesn't really know you (I know who you are) to see how your arguments and style of writing has improved over the past year. This isn't meant as sarcasm but your use of language to debate has got much better. Can't remember your A-levels but some of the teachers are doing a good job with you!!
And i only joined the forum in february....so thats nearly 5000 posts in 10 months
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nikalas
So you don't have the courage of your convictions to put your own simplistic good/evil or black/white definition to homosexuality.
Either you can't and that blows your whole simplistic argument out of the water or you haven't got the guts and, by your own definition, that makes you a morally corrupt wimp for not having the courage of your convictions.
I think, as the Americans would say, " and that's the ball game."
I think that's harsh on CL - you are trying to draw him in to a debate where he's had his wrists slapped in the past.
He had the guts before and you all then lambast him.
It also shows an intolerance of anyone that doesn't take the accepted line.
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biara
TT, it is interesting as a third party in education who doesn't really know you (I know who you are) to see how your arguments and style of writing has improved over the past year. This isn't meant as sarcasm but your use of language to debate has got much better. Can't remember your A-levels but some of the teachers are doing a good job with you!!
In that case I shall wind him up again and see if I get a better class of insult:D
No I must agree with you Biara - keep it up Tom (There was no way I could put this without someone deciding it was patronising - so take it as you will)
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Antisocial
In that case I shall wind him up again and see if I get a better class of insult:D
No I must agree with you Biara - keep it up Tom (There was no way I could put this without someone deciding it was patronising - so take it as you will)
haha Antisally.....only i would only ever direct 4 letter rants at you cos i actually like you so dont give a shit how i come across
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Witton Park
I think that's harsh on CL - you are trying to draw him in to a debate where he's had his wrists slapped in the past.
He had the guts before and you all then lambast him.
It also shows an intolerance of anyone that doesn't take the accepted line.
I'm not trying to draw him into anything just exposing how his simplistic world view just doesn't cut it. It's fine to court controversy in the way he does and, if he can back up his views with sound argument, those views are as valid as any other. However he rarely does this, seems to take pleasure in being antagonistic, has made personal threats and comments and fails to answer direct questions.
Also, to be honest, I can't see how there can be any debate about homosexuality in our society and in this day and age.
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TurboTom
haha Antisally.....only i would only ever direct 4 letter rants at you cos i actually like you so dont give a shit how i come across
I am so disappointed in you Thomas, with all this recent education you could at least have said faeces!
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Antisocial
I am so disappointed in you Thomas, with all this recent education you could at least have said faeces!
'Don't give a faeces' doesn't have the same ring to it although it could be the next anti-bullying slogan ;)
On a (very) loosely connected note, does anyone know why Americans say "I could give a damn" and us Brits say "I couldn't give a damn"?
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TheHeathens
'Don't give a faeces' doesn't have the same ring to it although it could be the next anti-bullying slogan ;)
On a (very) loosely connected note, does anyone know why Americans say "I could give a damn" and us Brits say "I couldn't give a damn"?
Are you accusing me of being a bully - do I need to set a popularity poll up to raise my self esteem :p
Clark Gable in Gone with the wind used the British version, as the censors made him put the emphasis on give rather than damn.
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Also, to be honest, I can't see how there can be any debate about homosexuality in our society and in this day and age.[/QUOTE]
disagree there are many issues, what is true homosexuality, is it genetic, learned or both etc. Does society pressure people into both labelled and castigated i.e for it, or pressured into acceptance. I.e if someone experiments as it acceptable are they now pressured to conform to the stereotype by both communities when they were only trying on a coat etc.
You could temper that with does it really matter - does it affect the world we live in in a way the BNP taking or not taking power (depending on your point of view) would, and I don't think it does and won't debate any of the points raised further to this post.
Unfortunately (I think) on both sides of the fence to some people passionately want this debate. If CL or others want to debate it that's up to them, but its also the right of the rest of us present our points of view. Its up to us all to decide if we can handle the consequences of their posts.
( unless of course we are drunk :D )
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Antisocial
is it genetic
Always wondered about the logic of this. Surely if it was genetic then homsexuality would die out within a few generations?
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Antisocial
Are you accusing me of being a bully - do I need to set a popularity poll up to raise my self esteem :p
I'm just getting drunk now so I can announce who I like and dislike on the forum and big up how everyone from Keighley is a massive drinker. :p
By the way, your family unfriendly language on the Wot are teenagers 4 thread hasn't gone unnoticed. :p
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Antisocial
I don't think it does and won't debate any of the points raised further to this post.
Don't take this the wrong way but you always say that and it's a cop out. It's the written equivalent of saying your piece then putting your fingers in your ears shouting "La La La La"
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TheHeathens
Always wondered about the logic of this. Surely if it was genetic then homsexuality would die out within a few generations?
I'm just getting drunk now so I can announce who I like and dislike on the forum and big up how everyone from Keighley is a massive drinker. :p
By the way, your family unfriendly language on the Wot are teenagers 4 thread hasn't gone unnoticed. :p
I was waiting for a response on that and you fell into my trap Ha - I was referring to this http://www.jazzjiveswing.com/index.p...d=50&Itemid=66
What were you thinking about?
re drinking I am ashamed to announce the pitiful amount I was drunk on.
Not sure I big up drinking - - it not something I can really do. I think Keighley has developed it own reputation without my help.
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Antisocial
But Anti, it's how others perceive your words and not how they were meant. You sent me a 2 page PM based on that premise! ;)
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Well both activities are bangs of a nature i suppose
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TheHeathens
But Anti, it's how others perceive your words and not how they were meant. You sent me a 2 page PM based on that premise! ;)
Exactly, I merely copied your style at the time - proving my point! I win (again) ;)
I'll close there as things between are beginning to go so well and I don't want to spoil it now.
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Antisocial
Exactly, I merely copied your style at the time - proving my point! I win (again) ;)
Bah, you didn't know what WUM meant so got your 'knickers in a knot' and you and I know what you really meant, hence your second comment.
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Antisocial
I'll close there as things between are beginning to go so well and I don't want to spoil it now.
Probably for the best, I certainly wouldn't want to be 'taken to task' again :D:D:D I'll just sign off with an earlier comment:
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Don't take this the wrong way but you always say that and it's a cop out. It's the written equivalent of saying your piece then putting your fingers in your ears shouting "La La La La"
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TheHeathens
Bah, you didn't know what WUM meant so got your 'knickers in a knot' and you and I know what you really meant, hence your second comment.
Probably for the best, I certainly wouldn't want to be 'taken to task' again :D:D:D I'll just sign off with an earlier comment:
Why can't you think of a suitable poll title.
Let it lie - you behaved like CL (unless you are CL), you were wrong but we all still respected you in the morning :)
Having lit the blue touch paper I really am retiring - for now
Have a good evening
G'night
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Brilliant. Thought you were bowing out the post previous Anti? :D:p
Sorry old bean, I'm winding you up.
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TheHeathens
Brilliant. Thought you were bowing out the post previous Anti? :D:p
Sorry old bean, I'm winding you up.
On Thursday, it was confirmed that the club had signed a three-year sponsorship deal with Turkish Airlines to take over as the club's official carrier.
And thats a small club who have won one or two tin pots.
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Thank God we didn't get Ryanair! The baggage charges would bankrupt the club
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noel
It was whether you deserve more than others from the NHS because you know it's evil. General opinion was that you were talking rubbish. At this point you threw science and global warming in to the mix.
I'm morally entitled to NHS treatment, because I don't regard the doctors, nurses etc as existing solely to serve my needs, with a chain round their necks. I see them as human beings who should, like other trades, exchange their skills on the free market.
That's the way I see them, but that is often not the way they see themselves. Many doctors like the system we've got at the moment. They do because it protects them from free market competition. So they put the shackles round their own ankles, in return for excessive pay, and protection from newcomers, achieved through legislation I.e. force.
They accept conformity as their natural state and then wonder why their lives are torn in a civil war between the demands of patients and the demands of bureaucrats.
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nikalas
We've been there and done this before much earlier in this thread and I'm confident that my argument stands up.
However the other political parties and the government, despite their many obvious failings, don't:
- Have a leader who's been found guilty of inciting racial hatred.
- Have a leader who denies the holocaust.
- Have a party history that originates from fascist groups.
- Had high ranking party members recorded saying that they'd like to machine gun a mosque.
- Clung to a policy of only allowing caucasians to be party members.
etc, etc I could go on and you reckon it's not a racist party.
But, and I keep re-iterating this, they do have a right to be heard but I honestly can't see how anyone with half a brain or sense of decency can take them seriously, let alone vote for them.
Surely it's obvious to a goat that their media friendly facade hides a vile racist core.
I never said they weren't a racist party. Inciting racial hatred as bad as it is, shouldn't be a crime. So the fact that it is a crime, shows our politicians to be racist, because they prevent scathing criticism of race. Not only that but they fix legislation to favour certain racial groups.
That is why Sikhs don't have to wear a crash helmet when riding a motor cycle. It's also the reason a Man was awarded £13000 recently, because his feelings were hurt when asked to remove his turban during a police training exercise.
One last point: Britain is already a fascist country. It has been for decades. The essential characteristic of fascism is state control of private property, not racism. So it's here already Nicklas, and you live happily under it.
